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morales says the incident was a violation of national sovereignty. this morning the u.s. is not commenting on the incident. however, spain is. >>> in the meantime, snowden is believed to still be hiding out in a moscow airport but he could soon have a new place to go. some lawmakers in iceland are proposing granting immediate citizenship to snowden. it's likely the proposal won't pass, it received minimal support moments after it was introduced. in 2005 iceland granted citizenship to chess master bobby fisher, who was trying to escape prosecution after he broke sanctions against the former yugoslavia. >>> right now it is 5:46. christina loren is back and i guess we go from sweltering and muggy to, as you say, refreshing now. >> also known as bay area norms, beautiful conditions finally. a lot of people actually make their plans to come out and visit the bay yar in the month of july because we get out of that june gloom. that's climatology for you. but we didn't have a lot of june gloom this year. taking a live look here, a little bit of fog this morning. it's a welcome si
morales says the incident was a violation of national sovereignty. this morning the u.s. is not commenting on the incident. however, spain is. >>> in the meantime, snowden is believed to still be hiding out in a moscow airport but he could soon have a new place to go. some lawmakers in iceland are proposing granting immediate citizenship to snowden. it's likely the proposal won't pass, it received minimal support moments after it was introduced. in 2005 iceland granted citizenship to...
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she said the pageant lacks morals. it is inconsistent. it is trashy. trump and the pageant sued her. the judge said yeah, she will pay up. trump's lawyer said we applaud the judge's articulate 30-page decision and we will pursue all rights available to mr. trump under the law. so, boy, oh, boy. donald must be going like, oh, yeah. $5 million for a beauty queen who said the pageant was fraudulent. >> take more than a lifetime to pay that back. >> no doubt. >> moving on -- talking about justin timberlake. a new album "tunnel vision" and the new video for one of the songs on the album is very racy, folks. take a look. the video features a lot of naked women. and there is a lot of smoke. and, you know things that they cover up. but essentially that is the video. it's not controversial, but certainly getting a lot of attention. if you recall the album cover to "tunnel vision" interesting, timberlake's face, silhouette, looks like a nude woman. like robin thicke's video for "blurred lines." >> that got a lot of controversy. can't show the juiciest stuff. doe
she said the pageant lacks morals. it is inconsistent. it is trashy. trump and the pageant sued her. the judge said yeah, she will pay up. trump's lawyer said we applaud the judge's articulate 30-page decision and we will pursue all rights available to mr. trump under the law. so, boy, oh, boy. donald must be going like, oh, yeah. $5 million for a beauty queen who said the pageant was fraudulent. >> take more than a lifetime to pay that back. >> no doubt. >> moving on --...
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five of the marines were up there to boost his morale. they invited me along to do a story and tom o'hare at the post. lovely stories, south florida is where veterans go ultimately. i interviewed pearl harbor veterans and took an arizona survivor out to parole in 2001 and is just marvelous to write the stories and meet these men and women. so i went up to middletown with the marines and spent i think two nights in three days or three nights and four days with them and i will never forget the first night. i met william manchester and we all had dinner together and cocktails on his porch. he had a cane. he was not yet in a wheelchair, and he made it very clear that he could no longer write. he hadn't lost his memory or his wit or his charm and he loves to read but he just could not put words to paper and that was the great tragedy with bill. and, i took notes and i remember one night it really moved me around 10:00 or 10:30 at night at wesleyan woman student not on the door and she was 20, 21 and she had two books. i forget what they were b
five of the marines were up there to boost his morale. they invited me along to do a story and tom o'hare at the post. lovely stories, south florida is where veterans go ultimately. i interviewed pearl harbor veterans and took an arizona survivor out to parole in 2001 and is just marvelous to write the stories and meet these men and women. so i went up to middletown with the marines and spent i think two nights in three days or three nights and four days with them and i will never forget the...
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is home and several south american leaders will meet today to talk about the incident when morales' plane was not allowed into several european country's air space. >> brazil's president for example says that all nations involved have some explaining to do. now, of course, all of that fuss over the plane was about the nsa intelligence leaker edward snowden as we said. somebody it seems was pretty sure that snowden had hitched a ride on the president's plane. >> as far as we know, snowden is still at the moscow international airport where he has been now for 12 days. karl pennhall went to the airport looking for snowden or at least to see the place he is reportedly calling home. >> this is the view that may have flashed in front of snow den just after touchdown. through passport control even though by then u.s. officials revoked his travel documents and perhaps he would have put the four laptops he was reportedly carrying through a scanner. what really happened next is a puzzle more complex than any in these airport magazines. there is no isolated transit lounge. like all other inter
is home and several south american leaders will meet today to talk about the incident when morales' plane was not allowed into several european country's air space. >> brazil's president for example says that all nations involved have some explaining to do. now, of course, all of that fuss over the plane was about the nsa intelligence leaker edward snowden as we said. somebody it seems was pretty sure that snowden had hitched a ride on the president's plane. >> as far as we know,...
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the snowden saga is deepening today it the asylum options for the asylum seeker is dwindling and evo morales is back today but the grounding and search of his plane was an abduction, they say and they are going to complain to the united nations. joining me from moscow with the latest is nbc news' jim mass said d.a. jim, a good day to you. edward snowden's status in russia is what today? >> reporter: hi, alex. well, snowden, it turns out, was not on board either the bolivian or that venezuelan president's jet following the energy summit in moscow. he is by lived toth in airport transit zone, living there 12 days, trying to figure out where he can go and how he will get there without a u.s. passport, ie, a travel document. his options are clearly narrowing, we can see this in the effect the strong behind-the-scenes u.s. pressure on these pro-snowden latin american countries, if you will, has had. ecuador was drive egg snowden's asylum process, now backed off, saying snowden will have to get to ecuador or to a border as quickly as possible. and then look at venezuela. nicolas maduro singing his
the snowden saga is deepening today it the asylum options for the asylum seeker is dwindling and evo morales is back today but the grounding and search of his plane was an abduction, they say and they are going to complain to the united nations. joining me from moscow with the latest is nbc news' jim mass said d.a. jim, a good day to you. edward snowden's status in russia is what today? >> reporter: hi, alex. well, snowden, it turns out, was not on board either the bolivian or that...
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issues on my mind, and you write when it comes to terrorism, in this country we$ç must think about the moral$ç$çd stakes involved if we truly$ believe in our space values and way of life, we must be willing to defend them. passive measures are on likely to suffice, the means of more active defense and deterrence must be considered and given the necessary political support. >> well, you say if you have a law enforcement approach you would say okay, let a terrorist act happen. then we find out who did it and try them and a u.s. court and if we make them guilty then they go to jail. what does that accomplish? uncertain deterrence but and mean time the act has taken place. and a terrorist act like 9/11 can kill a lot of people. so if you know something is coming at you, why not stop it backs and other words, prevention. and we say more -- when i first said that it was controversial but after 9/11 people would say of course. we should try to stop that from happening. so this doctrine is very important and it's become common that we did a great deal in this country and there have been lots of
issues on my mind, and you write when it comes to terrorism, in this country we$ç must think about the moral$ç$çd stakes involved if we truly$ believe in our space values and way of life, we must be willing to defend them. passive measures are on likely to suffice, the means of more active defense and deterrence must be considered and given the necessary political support. >> well, you say if you have a law enforcement approach you would say okay, let a terrorist act happen. then we...
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the money krurncrunch is a big o morale especially with those service members with children. >>> prosecutors expected to rest their case against george zimmerman friday. court is dark today in honor of the fourth of july holiday. >>> opponents of nsa's surveillance program are taking to the streets in protest on this independence, restore the fourth demonstrations happening across the nation. >>> president obama will spend the fourth of july celebrating with military heroes. they are having a barbecue at the white house. that includes a concert and some fireworks. >>> chowing down on coney island. joey chestnut goes for a record seventh straight victory in the nathan's hot dog eating contest. last year he ate 68 hot dogs and buns in ten minutes. >>> joint chiefs chairman general martin dempsey performs the national anthem at tonight's washington nationals game. if that's not patriotic enough, neil diamond day beauting his new tune, "freedom song" at the game. >>> be sure to go to newdaycnn.com for the latest. >>> for many on the east coast the fourth of july will be a little different this y
the money krurncrunch is a big o morale especially with those service members with children. >>> prosecutors expected to rest their case against george zimmerman friday. court is dark today in honor of the fourth of july holiday. >>> opponents of nsa's surveillance program are taking to the streets in protest on this independence, restore the fourth demonstrations happening across the nation. >>> president obama will spend the fourth of july celebrating with military...
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issues on my mind, and you write when it comes to terrorism, in this country we$ç must think about the moral$ç$çd stakes involved if we truly$ believe in our space values and way of life, we must be willing to defend them. passive measures are on likely to suffice, the means of more active defense and deterrence must be considered and given the necessary political support. >> well, you say if you have a law enforcement approach you would say okay, let a terrorist act happen. then we find out who did it and try them and a u.s. court and if we make them guilty then they go to jail. what does that accomplish? uncertain deterrence but and mean time the act has taken place. and a terrorist act like 9/11 can kill a lot of people. so if you know something is coming at you, why not stop it backs and other words, prevention. and we say more -- when i first said that it was controversial but after 9/11 people would say of course. we should try to stop that from happening. so this doctrine is very important and it's become common that we did a great deal in this country and there have been lots of
issues on my mind, and you write when it comes to terrorism, in this country we$ç must think about the moral$ç$çd stakes involved if we truly$ believe in our space values and way of life, we must be willing to defend them. passive measures are on likely to suffice, the means of more active defense and deterrence must be considered and given the necessary political support. >> well, you say if you have a law enforcement approach you would say okay, let a terrorist act happen. then we...
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asia use on my mind you write when it comes to terrorism we in this country must think hard about the moral stakes involved if we truly believe in our space values and our way of life, we must be willing to defend them. passive measures are unlikely to suffice. it means of more active defense and deterrence must be considered and given the necessary political support. >> welcome you say if you have a law enforcement approach, you say okay. a terrorist act happened. then we find out who did it and we try them in the u.s. court and if we make him guilty there are endless appeals and they go to jail. well, what does that accomplish? a certain deterrence but in the meantime a terrorist act has taken place and a terrorist act like 9/11 can kill a lot of people. so if you know something is coming at you why not stop it from happening, in other words, prevention. and i think -- when i first said that in 1984 it was very controversial. but after line 11, people said of course. we should be trying to stop that from happening so i think this doctrine of trying to prevent things is very important. and
asia use on my mind you write when it comes to terrorism we in this country must think hard about the moral stakes involved if we truly believe in our space values and our way of life, we must be willing to defend them. passive measures are unlikely to suffice. it means of more active defense and deterrence must be considered and given the necessary political support. >> welcome you say if you have a law enforcement approach, you say okay. a terrorist act happened. then we find out who...
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argentine president christina fernandez had this whole interaction with morales tonight. i called him, how is it going? i'm in a little room in the airport, and i'm not going to let them search my plane, i'm not a thief. here's my question for you. what chain of communication could have possibly happened that ended up with these four nations. air traffic control systems shutting down airspace for this flight? >> i have no idea. there's a longstanding rumor, there's -- that you could smuggle asylum seekers out by diplomatic pouch or you could get into somebody's plane or car, and that you could -- therefore be smuggled out. >> and you have immunity, because it would transfer to the vehicle. >> right. you'll remember there was a chinese dissident that was trying to get into hillary's car or at least that was the rumor, and you would be safe. i think there's some element of that going on high here, but it doesn't quite explain it. it's just freakin' weird. >> is there any conceivable way in which this was not -- today in the state department, spokesperson refused to say whet
argentine president christina fernandez had this whole interaction with morales tonight. i called him, how is it going? i'm in a little room in the airport, and i'm not going to let them search my plane, i'm not a thief. here's my question for you. what chain of communication could have possibly happened that ended up with these four nations. air traffic control systems shutting down airspace for this flight? >> i have no idea. there's a longstanding rumor, there's -- that you could...
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the syrian situation where assad believes that he would have some moral high ground to call out other leaders in the region though is despicable. it's also important to remember this is a very complex situation where even mohamed morsi had cut off relations with bashar al assad not so long ago. so there are many moving parts in this situation. >> i want to thank everyone who's joined us today. michael o'hanlon, jewel rubin, james peterson, peter alexander, ayman mohyeldin. we're going to continue to watch the scene unfold in egypt and listen in on the george zimmerman trial when we come zimmerman trial when we come back.♪ ♪ hey! ♪ ♪ let's go! ♪ [ male announcer ] you can choose to blend in. ♪ ♪ yeah! yeah! yeah! or you can choose to blend out. ♪ oh, yeah-eah! ♪ the all-new 2014 lexus is. it's your move. a regular guy with an irregular heartbeat. the usual, bob? not today. [ male announcer ] bob has afib: atrial fibrillation not caused by a heart valve problem, a condition that puts him at greater risk for a stroke. [ gps ] turn left. i don't think so. [ male announce
the syrian situation where assad believes that he would have some moral high ground to call out other leaders in the region though is despicable. it's also important to remember this is a very complex situation where even mohamed morsi had cut off relations with bashar al assad not so long ago. so there are many moving parts in this situation. >> i want to thank everyone who's joined us today. michael o'hanlon, jewel rubin, james peterson, peter alexander, ayman mohyeldin. we're going to...
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he wasn't on board but it was carrying the bolivian president morales. the ambassador to the u.n. believes the united states gave the orders to reroute the plane. >>> businesses are now getting a one-year reprieve from part of president obama's healthcare reform law. medium and large companies now have until january 2015 to provide coverage for the workers. the reason, a lot of businesses complain there's just too much paperwork to do to meet the requirement. the obama administration is promising to simplify the process. >>> a controversial abortion bill in texas up for another house vote next week. it restricts when and where and how women can get an abortion in the state. republicans approved the bill last week during a special long session were having too much fun. and a live look at mobile 5n the ,,,, denny's red white & blue plate specials are as american as apple pie. especially, the apple pie french toast. come in today for specials starting at just $4.99. only at denny's. following the trend around e world. that comes after modest loss yesterday. erica ferrari ... of cbs m
he wasn't on board but it was carrying the bolivian president morales. the ambassador to the u.n. believes the united states gave the orders to reroute the plane. >>> businesses are now getting a one-year reprieve from part of president obama's healthcare reform law. medium and large companies now have until january 2015 to provide coverage for the workers. the reason, a lot of businesses complain there's just too much paperwork to do to meet the requirement. the obama administration...
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morales even joked, snowden's waiting for me. not something to joke about clearly. >>> a showdown in egypt, overnight at least 16 people were killed, 200 wounded at cairo university during clashes between supporters of president mohamed morsi and anti-government protesters. the egyptian military said it will sacrifice our blood if morsi refuses to come up with a power sharing agreement by the deadline, just a few hours from now. let's get straight to cairo where reza sayeh is standing by. you've been watching this unfold for day. what is the latest? any signs either side is ready to give in or meet halfway? >> reporter: no sign, kate, and we keep waking up every morning in cairo thinking no way things can get more intense, more dramatic, they keep getting more dramatic. the stage is set for a showdown that could turn violent overnight. we got a glimpse of what could be coming today. overnight in egypt, anticipation turning into violence. hundreds wounded. others shot to death. as supporters and opponents of egyptian president moh
morales even joked, snowden's waiting for me. not something to joke about clearly. >>> a showdown in egypt, overnight at least 16 people were killed, 200 wounded at cairo university during clashes between supporters of president mohamed morsi and anti-government protesters. the egyptian military said it will sacrifice our blood if morsi refuses to come up with a power sharing agreement by the deadline, just a few hours from now. let's get straight to cairo where reza sayeh is standing...
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morales is on an official state visit, some big conference was being held with latin-american leaders in moscow. he's there on his government plane and while he's at this conference, he was asked as well as other presidents were asked everybody is being asked here, head of the country would you consider giving edward snowden asylum? and he said yeah. we would. he hasn't committed a crime in bolivia. so then, he finds out before he leaves moscow, that lisbon -- portugal rather, has suddenly rescinded his flight plan, his permission rather to refuel in lisbon on the way home. so he has to come up with another plan. he gets permission from spain to refuel in the canary islands. the next day, he takes off. right? leaves moscow. and somehow the rumor gets started that because he said he might be logical to give edward snowden asylum. the rumor gets started that snowden is on his plane. is stowed away on the plane, based on nothing, by the way. in fact, here's what's really funny is government planes, this is like andrews air force base here in washington. so if you're a president from anot
morales is on an official state visit, some big conference was being held with latin-american leaders in moscow. he's there on his government plane and while he's at this conference, he was asked as well as other presidents were asked everybody is being asked here, head of the country would you consider giving edward snowden asylum? and he said yeah. we would. he hasn't committed a crime in bolivia. so then, he finds out before he leaves moscow, that lisbon -- portugal rather, has suddenly...
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president evo morales' plane landed. france and portugal refused access to their airspace. bolivia's foreign minister released a statement denying snowden was onboard the president's plane. "we don't know who invented this lie. we want to denounce to the international community this injustice with the plane of president evo morales." bolivian officials are demanding answers from france and portugal as to why the president's plane was not allowed to cross into their airspace. at this point, the french prime minister's office tells nbc news they have no comment, no confirmation nor denial on the incident. joining me now on the phone from rio do janeiro, glenn greenwald, who broke the story in "the guardian." my first question, your reaction to this remarkable series of events. i've never heard of an example of a plane carrying a head of state being denied access to airspace by other countries that were not in some kind of active hostilities with that nation. >> it is extraordinary. i mean, the premise of this behavior presumably was that snowden was on that airplane because b
president evo morales' plane landed. france and portugal refused access to their airspace. bolivia's foreign minister released a statement denying snowden was onboard the president's plane. "we don't know who invented this lie. we want to denounce to the international community this injustice with the plane of president evo morales." bolivian officials are demanding answers from france and portugal as to why the president's plane was not allowed to cross into their airspace. at this...
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more than 80 people were arrested during the night weekly moral monday protest called by the naacp to pres the agenda of north carolina's republican- controlled legislature. a major focus of this week's protest was the loss of unemployment benefits to 70,000 people in north carolina, which has just gone into effect. north carolina became the first date in the to disqualify its residents from the aid free at another 100 thousand unemployed in north carolina are expected to lose benefits in the coming months. in california, transit workers have enter the second day of a strike that has halted bay area commuter trains for the first time in 16 years. the strike was called after talks fail to produce an agreement before contract expired. and the newspaper company tribune will pay nearly $3 billion to purchase 19 local television stations, giving it one of the largest holdings of local tv affiliates of the country. tribune, which owns the los angeles times and chicago tribune, has been seeking to sell off its newspaper since emerging from bankruptcy in recent months. the deal comes just wee
more than 80 people were arrested during the night weekly moral monday protest called by the naacp to pres the agenda of north carolina's republican- controlled legislature. a major focus of this week's protest was the loss of unemployment benefits to 70,000 people in north carolina, which has just gone into effect. north carolina became the first date in the to disqualify its residents from the aid free at another 100 thousand unemployed in north carolina are expected to lose benefits in the...
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morally and ethically is in a decline. maybe now. i'm not so sure. just try to imagine. his situation. i just think how many. young man has been thinking. doing what he's done. i can imagine. reaching. what. father family living. made a huge. in his life his life now is complete and will always be he revealed. very information about the world. he. felt. under enormous pressure. thinking. different world than. the world was. still. and i think. something for him. leave the decision to the people. we believe. or. close to do. for him. really believe. we are not afraid of any kind of. i don't know how many people can hear me. but i want to say. this is. trying to ask another question. don't you think. this is a hot topic. today but. no one. there will be for sure. huge movements the youth in europe for instance around the world. move reaction and. war. unfairness. and did is just. the world reaction. so we. could also be any car any person for in europe. after the crisis. it was. for sure there will be a reaction. and. from what he did. for sure. because respectful to the w
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. >> i'm willie geist along with natalie morales. thousands attended the service for the firefighters that died battling a dangerous wildfire. >> this is a community in mourning and the fire is spreading and threatening more homes. we'll talk to the widow of one of the fallen. andrew ashcraft. she shared to us the final photo he texted her showing him and fellow member of the team moment before the fire made its devastating fatal turn. but first, the latest on the investigation. let's get right to nbc's miguel almaguer. good morning to you. >> reporter: savannah, good morning. in the next day or two firefighters hope to know more about what happened on the day so many died here. as they search for answers, a community grieves. the 19 fallen firefighters gave their lives to protect their community. >> the city of prescott lost, the state of arizona and the nation. these were the best. they were on call to go anywhere. >> reporter: 14 of the victims were in their 20s. young men who were starting families, pursuing their dreams and were
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this is about sex, power, and imposing their morality on all the rest of us. i tell you, i had a lot of conversations today with leadership, both with ohio naral, with kelly copeland, then with stephanie, excuse me, at planned parenthood, and it's so clear that they're right now just trying to figure out what exactly they're going to be able to do to challenge these laws. you know, they sneak them in, in a budget bill. there's no debate. it sounds very similar to texas. i was just listening to the senator. >> right. >> it's very secretive. now the challenge is how do we let everyone know about this? how -- i am convinced that a lot of voters, particularly women in ohio, have no idea yet what happened. >> you know, that's exactly my question because the way this all got passed, using it, putting it in the budget, going through the budget process, not having big hearings on this, and the fact this was a deal with the devil that kasich made with the kind of right-wing base of the republican party. my question to you is, how many ohio voters wake up today knowing
this is about sex, power, and imposing their morality on all the rest of us. i tell you, i had a lot of conversations today with leadership, both with ohio naral, with kelly copeland, then with stephanie, excuse me, at planned parenthood, and it's so clear that they're right now just trying to figure out what exactly they're going to be able to do to challenge these laws. you know, they sneak them in, in a budget bill. there's no debate. it sounds very similar to texas. i was just listening to...
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many historians call the battle of gettysburg a morality blow to the confederacy and an event that saved the nation. james rosen live tonight gettysburg, p.a. james, crowds out there today, right? >> absolutely, shep. >> we have seen probably a few thousand people including both reenactors and more casual students of the civil war era. some 10,000 people from the north and south if you will participated in yesterday's reenactment. today we witnessed a latter day union regiment tri. complete with cannon shots. people have camped out in tents. we were only able to observe the soldier having his foot amputated. let's say there was no more anesthesia being used today than on hand in 1863. they have a terrific and fairly new museum and visitor's center here. recently the chief of museum services took fox news on a private tour of their archives. the part the public doesn't get to see to show us prized art facts which tend to reflect one side of the battle. >> our collection is heavily union oriented. this is a union victory. the people who first put their mark on the battlefield were all unio
many historians call the battle of gettysburg a morality blow to the confederacy and an event that saved the nation. james rosen live tonight gettysburg, p.a. james, crowds out there today, right? >> absolutely, shep. >> we have seen probably a few thousand people including both reenactors and more casual students of the civil war era. some 10,000 people from the north and south if you will participated in yesterday's reenactment. today we witnessed a latter day union regiment tri....
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that it is not right to divorce foreign investment from the more of those who want to come here to be morally upright human beings otherwise they are splitting the wrong message to the children of this country and to the children of africa richard what do you think about that i mean the united states is considered a laggard when it comes to investing in africa i mean is it because it's been focused on military and security too much. i think primarily it's been focused on the down side on the threats and the problems of africa too much in development so most of its money and spending in africa has been on development programs but i would say that i go back to my earlier point in terms of. africans feeling the benefits of trade and. the response to frozen is point trade is a two way thing so should we blaming u.s. companies or chinese companies for their lack of domestic development and investment in places like rustenburg no and. you know these these primarily responsibilities for african governments so i would argue that trade and investment is a good thing for africa. provided african govern
that it is not right to divorce foreign investment from the more of those who want to come here to be morally upright human beings otherwise they are splitting the wrong message to the children of this country and to the children of africa richard what do you think about that i mean the united states is considered a laggard when it comes to investing in africa i mean is it because it's been focused on military and security too much. i think primarily it's been focused on the down side on the...
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themselves why does this absurdity we're so let's review everything that pertains to the freedom of morals sexuality and therefore in private life you think it's none of the public's concern less seem like that it's simple right and in this way everybody can live happily. go to i put who is evil who is can no good a gay man who is discreet about his sexuality be part of your cabinet to deal with what can be measured go to told that is the case i have homosexuals all around me and it poses no problem for me but they don't make a show of their sexuality or any propaganda and they don't try to convince anyone because they're aware and legitimately so that all this pertains to a person's private and intimate life and not to political life do the visit seem it but if you critique to. there's a lot of discussion about international intervention into local conflicts expressed support for mali interventional saying that libya has been a catastrophe and now we may be looking in some sort of intervention in syria how do you judge which intervention in which country is justified or not. but it's stil
themselves why does this absurdity we're so let's review everything that pertains to the freedom of morals sexuality and therefore in private life you think it's none of the public's concern less seem like that it's simple right and in this way everybody can live happily. go to i put who is evil who is can no good a gay man who is discreet about his sexuality be part of your cabinet to deal with what can be measured go to told that is the case i have homosexuals all around me and it poses no...
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is not right to divorce foreign investment from the more of those who want to come here they must be morally upright human beings otherwise they are spreading out wrong message to the children of this country and to the children of africa richard what do you think about that i mean the united states is considered a laggard when it comes to investing in africa i mean is it because it's been focused on military and security too much. i think primarily it's been focused on the down side on the threats and the problems of africa too much in development so most of its money and spending in africa has been on development programs but i would say that i go back to my earlier point in terms of our africans feeling the benefits of trade and. the response to for us is point trade is a two way thing so should we be inflaming u.s. companies or chinese companies for their lack of domestic development and investment in places like rustenburg no and. you know these these primarily responsibilities for african governments so i would argue that trade and investment is a good thing for africa. provided africa
is not right to divorce foreign investment from the more of those who want to come here they must be morally upright human beings otherwise they are spreading out wrong message to the children of this country and to the children of africa richard what do you think about that i mean the united states is considered a laggard when it comes to investing in africa i mean is it because it's been focused on military and security too much. i think primarily it's been focused on the down side on the...
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the so-called moral monday demonstrations continue today. jonathan's live in atlanta with the details. >> over the weekend cutbacks went into effect. protesters say this is just the latest reason i plan to return to the state legislative complex late this afternoon. protesters say they are advocating for the poor who they say are being harmed by legislation passed by the g.o.p. the first time in more than a century republicans control the governorship and both chambers of north carolina legislature. they say the issue is and morals but money. >> to $7.1 billion in state debt, top of all that we owe the feds $3 billion in unemployment insurance so we have been working hard to get the fiscal house in order. >> that opted out for the program for 500,000 people. g.o.p. legislators have proposed reducing state income taxes and increasing sales tax. as well as cuts in public school funding and restrictions on early funding. >> simply because it can. >> state and local authorities have spent $60,000 the past eight weeks providing extra officers and
the so-called moral monday demonstrations continue today. jonathan's live in atlanta with the details. >> over the weekend cutbacks went into effect. protesters say this is just the latest reason i plan to return to the state legislative complex late this afternoon. protesters say they are advocating for the poor who they say are being harmed by legislation passed by the g.o.p. the first time in more than a century republicans control the governorship and both chambers of north carolina...
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she was key to troop morale. he felt that very strongly. she would organize the other officers wives, and they would cook for the soldiers, they would so for the soldiers, they would nurse the soldiers, pray with soldiers, they would put on great entertainment. the call us believes that -- mcauliffe believes during the war washington's genius was keeping the army together. washington would say he could not have done it without martha. and he begged her to come to camp every year or so that she could work. and the troops adored her. lady washington is here. >> as we continue our conversation on first ladies, the leslie stall, cokie roberts and a yell university law and political science professor talks first lady's monday night at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. >> on friday, the washington institute for near east policy held a discussion assessing the obama administration's recent decision to begin providing military assistance to the syrian rebels. -- one byo opinion julie -- george washington university director mark lynches said the u.s. ca
she was key to troop morale. he felt that very strongly. she would organize the other officers wives, and they would cook for the soldiers, they would so for the soldiers, they would nurse the soldiers, pray with soldiers, they would put on great entertainment. the call us believes that -- mcauliffe believes during the war washington's genius was keeping the army together. washington would say he could not have done it without martha. and he begged her to come to camp every year or so that she...
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. >> i'm willie geist in for matt with natalie morales. we're following the tragic story out of arizona. one of the worst disasters in decade. >> 19 members of a so-called hot shot crew were digging a fire break northwest of phoenix when heavy winds pushed the flames on top of the group. we wanted to get to nbc's miguel almaguera at the scene. good morning to you. >> reporter: savannah, good morning. this is the deadliest wild fire involving firefighters in decades. the group, the hotshot team, was an elite unit. at this hour they say it's too early to tell exactly what went wrong. fanned by hot whipping winds the deadly blaze exploded out of control sunday. flames overtook a team of 19 firefighters, trapped with no time to escape. >> 19 firefighters were killed in probably the worst disaster that's taken place in history here in the state of arizona. we grieve for the families, we grieve for the department. we grieve for the city. >> reporter: the victims were members of prescott's elite granite mountain hotshot team. this video last year
. >> i'm willie geist in for matt with natalie morales. we're following the tragic story out of arizona. one of the worst disasters in decade. >> 19 members of a so-called hot shot crew were digging a fire break northwest of phoenix when heavy winds pushed the flames on top of the group. we wanted to get to nbc's miguel almaguera at the scene. good morning to you. >> reporter: savannah, good morning. this is the deadliest wild fire involving firefighters in decades. the group,...
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president obama will bring any hope to this continent and i say so for one main reason president obama is morally bankrupt some of the model failures of this world and to this end in south africa we have legislation called the implementation of their own statute which basically mystic aids your own state shoot into south african legislation and allows a so therefore can court to try obama for war crimes or to be for him to the international criminal court and the muslim lawyers association have in this respect submitted to the prosecuting authorities in the police what is known as the obama docket and then docket essentially is for objectives we have presented evidence that obama is guilty of war crimes crimes against humanity and genocide we have done so first because we believe it is really just duty to speak out against a tyrant like obama to hold him accountable for his claims second we have done so in order to bring justice to the victims of these envisions policy the victims of the store chain and did in detention policies such as those in one turn a movie and the victims of these incinerat
president obama will bring any hope to this continent and i say so for one main reason president obama is morally bankrupt some of the model failures of this world and to this end in south africa we have legislation called the implementation of their own statute which basically mystic aids your own state shoot into south african legislation and allows a so therefore can court to try obama for war crimes or to be for him to the international criminal court and the muslim lawyers association have...
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but she was key to troop morale. and he felt that very strongly. she would organize the other officers wives, and they would have -- that they would cook for the soldiers, so for the soldiers, and as the soldiers, pray with the soldiers, they on great entertainment for the soldiers. duringfe believes rainbow war that washington's genius keeping the army together. washington would say he could not do it without martha -- could not have done it without martha, and he begged her to come to camp every year so she could work. the troops adored her. lady washington is here. ours we continue conversation on first ladies, lesley stahl, cokie roberts and yell university law and clinical science professor discussed first ladies, from martha washington to michelle obama. tonight at 9:00 p.m. eastern on c-span. washington journal continues. host: every monday in this segment of "washington journal" we look at how your money is work in different federal programs. this week we look at u.s. international broadcasting efforts. we are joined to do this by ross john
but she was key to troop morale. and he felt that very strongly. she would organize the other officers wives, and they would have -- that they would cook for the soldiers, so for the soldiers, and as the soldiers, pray with the soldiers, they on great entertainment for the soldiers. duringfe believes rainbow war that washington's genius keeping the army together. washington would say he could not do it without martha -- could not have done it without martha, and he begged her to come to camp...
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president obama will bring any hope to this continent and i say so for one main reason president obama is morally bankrupt to the model of this world and to this end. we have legislation called the implementation of their own statute which basically gates. into so if you can legislation and allows a so therefore you can court to try obama for war crimes or to be for him to the international criminal court and the muslim lawyers association have in this respect submitted to the prosecuting authorities in the police what is known as the obama docket and then docket essentially is for ject we have presented evidence that obama is guilty of walk crimes against humanity and genocide we have done so for. first because we believe it is our religious duty to speak out against a tyrant like obama to hold him accountable for his crimes second we have done so in order to bring justice to the victims of his envisions policy the victims of torture and detention policies such as those in. and the victims of his incineration policy when i mean when i say incineration policy i talk of using drone.
president obama will bring any hope to this continent and i say so for one main reason president obama is morally bankrupt to the model of this world and to this end. we have legislation called the implementation of their own statute which basically gates. into so if you can legislation and allows a so therefore you can court to try obama for war crimes or to be for him to the international criminal court and the muslim lawyers association have in this respect submitted to the prosecuting...
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. >> months after the french intervention here in northern malley, an moral milestone of a u.n. mission takes over. brazil stunned the world in the final of the confederations cup. that's also to come. >> ecuador's president says the fate of the u.s. whistleblower is in russia's hands. snowden has been trapped in a moscow airport for more than a week. an asylum request will be considered when he's on ecuadorian territory. >> citizen snowden is not located on ecuadorian territory. question not process his asylum request. we would have to process hi asipe sigh william request and we would take into consideration he u.s. framework, the international framework and also what's been described with mr. snowden. >> snowden has been in the airport without a passport. it's going to be very difficult for him to make it to ecuadorian territory. are you going to help him? >> what can we do since he is in a foreign country, a foreign citizen. he's out of our hands, i insist. f he gets into an ecuadorian embassy, we can help him but this case is not an ecuadorian case. >> secret n.s.a. dock ys
. >> months after the french intervention here in northern malley, an moral milestone of a u.n. mission takes over. brazil stunned the world in the final of the confederations cup. that's also to come. >> ecuador's president says the fate of the u.s. whistleblower is in russia's hands. snowden has been trapped in a moscow airport for more than a week. an asylum request will be considered when he's on ecuadorian territory. >> citizen snowden is not located on ecuadorian...
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president obama will bring any hope to this continent and i say so for one main reason president obama is morally bankrupt the model fair use of this world and to this end in south africa we have legislation called the implementation of their own statute which basically gates the. legislation and allows a so therefore can court to try obama for war crimes or to be for him to the international criminal court and the muslim lawyers association have in this respect submitted to the prosecuting authorities in the police what is known as the obama docket and then docket essentially is for us we have presented evidence that obama is guilty of walk crimes against humanity and genocide we have done so first because we believe it is really just duty to speak out against a tyrant like obama to hold him accountable for his claims. can we have done so in order to bring justice to the victims of these of indecision spoilers see the victims of torture in detention policies such as those in turn will be in the victims of these incineration policy and when i mean when they say incineration policy i talk of the s
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i think it's a more narrow restrained ruling, but it still has the major force of a moral push. >> on a 100 scale, what's the probability that the supreme court will have to rule on whether there is a constitutional right to marry someone of your own gender. >> low. 20s. >> because the states are going to do this. overwhelming, young people support it. they're going to be the people who are the deciders in the future. >> will the supreme court so say. >> i think eventually this is an usual you that will go before the supreme court and they have to make a decision. not any time in the near future. eventually this is a case -- that question is something that the supreme court will have to address. >> are you a lawyer? >> yes. >> i'm with you. >> issue two, into africa. >> on behalf of myself and michelle, our children, our entire delegation, we want to thank you for the incredible hospitality that you have shown us today. >> for the first time since 2009, president obama is back in africa. mr. obama's itinerary where mr. obama speaks directly to business leaders. no coincidence that it'
i think it's a more narrow restrained ruling, but it still has the major force of a moral push. >> on a 100 scale, what's the probability that the supreme court will have to rule on whether there is a constitutional right to marry someone of your own gender. >> low. 20s. >> because the states are going to do this. overwhelming, young people support it. they're going to be the people who are the deciders in the future. >> will the supreme court so say. >> i think...
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the soldiers treat as i am an american soldier and a moral member of the team sure the people still dealing with. always place missions first of all maybe it's the feet moving with almost aloof fallen comrades and just one physically or mentally tough tranquil fish in the water testing rules . always maintained all my equipment and myself. a standard age deploying gauger destroy the enemies united states of america in close call but only guarding the freedom and american way of life i am an american soldier. do you know that my heart my heart their freedom it's called the n b a gram misses this way. and also the way. i have for the song or. the shotgun and two zero three because i would rather die before i disarm i really. really really like you really. what do you like better country so much that it's the best country in the world it got to be we got it. bought by actually what's happening in the world are not the way. they were seven confirmed in two thousand and three five in two thousand and four nine in two thousand and five three in two thousand and six six in two thousand and seven f
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. >> this is also a moral question. the united states government should be investing in our students, not charging them profits for getting an education. >> samson, do you think congress gets how big of a problem this really is for a lot of students? >> i feel at one point seeing so many congressman have went to college prior to joining congress, i feel a lot of them understand the struggle that us students are currently going through. i just feel like it's obviously falling into the back of their mind the problem they had with these student loans. and obviously that's not good for us. >> jen? >> one thing i would add is a lot of members of congress went to college at a time when, you know, it didn't cost as much. >> exactly. >> when my mom went to school, it cost her a third of the tuition it cost me when i went to college. rates have gone up. costs have gone up. you're looking pat a generation that holds $1 trillion in student debt now. >> samson, what's your major? >> i'm currently a finance major. >> what do you wan
. >> this is also a moral question. the united states government should be investing in our students, not charging them profits for getting an education. >> samson, do you think congress gets how big of a problem this really is for a lot of students? >> i feel at one point seeing so many congressman have went to college prior to joining congress, i feel a lot of them understand the struggle that us students are currently going through. i just feel like it's obviously falling...
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remember struggling to express the anger and passion that i was feeling and to echo in some small way the moral clarity of freedom fighters an ocean away. i'll be honest, when i was done, i did not think that i had made any difference. i was even a little embarrassed. and i thought to myself what's a bunch of university kids doing in california that is somehow going to make a difference. it felt too distance from what people were going through in plac places. but looking back, as i look at that 19-year-old young man, i'm more forgiving of the fact that the speech might not have been that great. because i know now that something inside me was stirring at the time. something important. and that was the belief that i could be part of something bigger than myself. that my own salvation was bound up with those of others. that's what bobby kennedy expressed when he spoke here at the university of capetown in 1966. he said each time a man stands up for an ideal or acts to improve the lot of others or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope. and crossing each other from a mi
remember struggling to express the anger and passion that i was feeling and to echo in some small way the moral clarity of freedom fighters an ocean away. i'll be honest, when i was done, i did not think that i had made any difference. i was even a little embarrassed. and i thought to myself what's a bunch of university kids doing in california that is somehow going to make a difference. it felt too distance from what people were going through in plac places. but looking back, as i look at that...
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remember struggling to express the anger and the passion i was feeling and to echo in some small way the moral clarity of freedom fighters an ocean away. i will be honest with you. when i was done, i did not think i had made any difference. i was even a little embarrassed. i thought to myself what's a bunch of university kids doing in california that is somehow going to make a difference. it felt too distant from what people were going through in places like this. but looking back, as i look at that 19-year-old young man, i'm more forgiving of the fact that the speech might not have been that great. because i knew and i know now that something inside me was stirring at the time. something important. that was the belief that i could be part of something bigger than myself. that my own salvation was bound up with those of others. that's what bobby kennedy expressed far better than i ever could when he spoke here at the university of cape in 1966. he said each time a man stands up for an ideal or acts to improve the lot of others or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of h
remember struggling to express the anger and the passion i was feeling and to echo in some small way the moral clarity of freedom fighters an ocean away. i will be honest with you. when i was done, i did not think i had made any difference. i was even a little embarrassed. i thought to myself what's a bunch of university kids doing in california that is somehow going to make a difference. it felt too distant from what people were going through in places like this. but looking back, as i look at...
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struggling to express the anger and the passion that)<Ñçy i was feelingd to echo in some small way the moral clarity of freedom fighters an ocean away. i'll be honest with you, when i was done, i did not think that i had made any difference. i was even a little embarrassed. i thought to myself: what's a bunch of university kids doing in california that is somehow going to make a difference? it felt too distant from what people were going through in places like soweto. but looking back, as i look at that 19-year-old young man... i am... i am more forgiving of the fact that the speech might not have been that great... because i know now that something inside me was stirring at the time, something important. and that was the belief that i could be part of something bigger than myself. that my own salvation was bound up with those of others. that's what bobby kennedy expressed far better than i ever could when he spoke here at the university of cape town in 1966. he said, each time a man stands up for an idea or acts to improve the lot of others or strikes outp?),é)n he sendseb"ñ forth a tiny
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i personally look at justice kenne kennedy's opinion and kind of agree with the sentiment and the morality behind it. if i were to vote, i would vote against doma as well. but is seemed that justice scalia's logic was unassailable. the government said we're not going to fight it. what are we doing here? >> there were plenty of people, both through the amicus process and others who put the argument forward. and the court could have come to a different conclusion had it wanted to. it's almost three strikes your out. doma, prop 8, and the state bans. and i think that's appropriate. we have a debate in our state, i'm from a state that passed marriage equality on the ballot, but still in some communities within some of our african-american communities and churches, it's a really difficult issue. but this is about what states do, what the federal government does with respect to its citizens, doesn't impact what churches and faith communities do within the confines of their church. >> how does this play out, matthew? >> to me, this is the court trying to catch up to america in the 21st century. i
i personally look at justice kenne kennedy's opinion and kind of agree with the sentiment and the morality behind it. if i were to vote, i would vote against doma as well. but is seemed that justice scalia's logic was unassailable. the government said we're not going to fight it. what are we doing here? >> there were plenty of people, both through the amicus process and others who put the argument forward. and the court could have come to a different conclusion had it wanted to. it's...
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. >> let me ask, what incentives and structure other than a moral or ethical discourse exist for generating a more fair and human rights and democratic way of doing business both for us and the country of china. it's one thing to say it should be that way. it's another thing to say here are the market incentives and geopolitical incentives to make it happen. >> it's coming from the ground, not the leaders, and people pushing very hard. i was recently in durbin for the climb change talks. i know we'll talk about climate change later. thousands of young people gathered around the world concerned about the land grab. that's an issue in china, africa, saudi arabia buying up large tracts of land so they will provide for their people. corporations using this and leasing the land because africa is poor. we have to change our whole view of africa. it doesn't owe a debt to the west, we owe a debt to them. we have cell phones where does the cell phone -- so many resources we have to look back. the obama family, of course, so deeply meaningful where the africans were enslaved and scene on middle passa
. >> let me ask, what incentives and structure other than a moral or ethical discourse exist for generating a more fair and human rights and democratic way of doing business both for us and the country of china. it's one thing to say it should be that way. it's another thing to say here are the market incentives and geopolitical incentives to make it happen. >> it's coming from the ground, not the leaders, and people pushing very hard. i was recently in durbin for the climb change...
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some people would say traditional marriage is moral and anything other than that is a moral and violates -- immoral and violates religious precepts. others would say that equal treatment is what is moral. there is clearly more than one way to view what is moral. host: people weighing in on the court on our facebook and twitter page. why don't we the people get a chance to and their terms? -- to end their terms? the notion was that you pick a judge, the person serves an extended term, life term on good behavior. i know it does offend a lot of people. the turbine proposals to say, maybe they should serve 10 or 16 years -- there have been proposals to say, maybe they should serve 10 or 16 years. the constitution would have to be amended. as one of the things we were left with in the original constitution, the judges serve a life term. a tweet who is in the wings, and who is most likely to be confirmed? guest: it would be justice ginsburg. she said she would like to stay for another two years. if she were to leave in 2015, president obama would presumably who is on the left side of the divid
some people would say traditional marriage is moral and anything other than that is a moral and violates -- immoral and violates religious precepts. others would say that equal treatment is what is moral. there is clearly more than one way to view what is moral. host: people weighing in on the court on our facebook and twitter page. why don't we the people get a chance to and their terms? -- to end their terms? the notion was that you pick a judge, the person serves an extended term, life term...
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tradition of political refugee is morally unacceptable now as the story develops of the human as well in president nicolas maduro will arrive in moscow on monday and venezuela is considered as a nother possible asylum just a nation for mr snowden so you really sense that there might be a new twist in the story. artist yvonne would say reports on the whistleblowers complicated movements and the diplomatic route that has triggered. bunnings and snowden i'm twenty nine years old as soon as edward snowden revealed himself as the with a woman he set off a catch me if you can hunt by the u.s. government want to get him caught and away is he now guessing game for the media after a tip off that snowden was on board a flight from hong kong to moscow the media started speculating as to his next move edward snowden slew from hong kong to moscow say that he will be able to have on a flight. the situation descended into a fall when a crowd of journalists boarded the flight from moscow to have bene only to find that the whistle blower was not on board a presumed to be stuck in an airport transit sa
tradition of political refugee is morally unacceptable now as the story develops of the human as well in president nicolas maduro will arrive in moscow on monday and venezuela is considered as a nother possible asylum just a nation for mr snowden so you really sense that there might be a new twist in the story. artist yvonne would say reports on the whistleblowers complicated movements and the diplomatic route that has triggered. bunnings and snowden i'm twenty nine years old as soon as edward...
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first committee aleksey scoffed wrote in his twitter that the extradition off political refugee is morally unacceptable but as the story develops of the even as well ian president nicolas maduro will arrive in moscow this a monday and there are some spock elations that he has visited so would actually resolve the situation in a way that we thank you very much for the. port in moscow thank you what human rights activist peter tatchell says america is showing deep hypocrisy in its time big of snowden. this is rogue spying by a rogue state i mean if it was edward snowden had been an iranian whistleblower who exposed global snooping by the terran regime i think he would have been hailed by the united states as a horowitz whistleblower he would have been lauded and pray i think the united states has incredible double standards it is pursuing a man who is motivated not by hatred of his country not by any financial gain he's not out to aid any enemy country he is motivated by idealism and a belief in the human rights that we all have a right to privacy. and artie's the bang not say now reports on
first committee aleksey scoffed wrote in his twitter that the extradition off political refugee is morally unacceptable but as the story develops of the even as well ian president nicolas maduro will arrive in moscow this a monday and there are some spock elations that he has visited so would actually resolve the situation in a way that we thank you very much for the. port in moscow thank you what human rights activist peter tatchell says america is showing deep hypocrisy in its time big of...
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it's morally indefensible. it's diplomatically indefensible to be comparing a hero such as general clapper to someone who is basically a traitor and defector. to me, it goes beyond any type of rational discussion. i that senator paul has certainly hurt himself in my eyes. i think he hurt himself in the eyes of common sense americans who realize there is a line you don't cross. and senator paul, to me, clearly crossed that line. >> and so where do we go from here? what would you like? is there a happy ending possibly with the snowden case? >> there's no happy ending. the hope is to make the ending as less painful as possible. real damage has been done. i think what we need in this country also going beyond this is have a debate in this country so people understand how dangerous this world is, how we have an enemy trying to kill us. rather than worrying about the nsa, we should be much more worried about al qaeda and the affiliates around the world including right here in the united states. >> congressman peter k
it's morally indefensible. it's diplomatically indefensible to be comparing a hero such as general clapper to someone who is basically a traitor and defector. to me, it goes beyond any type of rational discussion. i that senator paul has certainly hurt himself in my eyes. i think he hurt himself in the eyes of common sense americans who realize there is a line you don't cross. and senator paul, to me, clearly crossed that line. >> and so where do we go from here? what would you like? is...
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. >> madiba's moral courage, this country's historic transition to free and democratic nation has been a personal inspiration to me. >> reporter: he essentially called him the george washington of south africa, noting how like america's founding father, mandela knew to grow a democracy, he to walk away from power. >> nelson mandela, similarly, was able to recognize despite how revered he was, that part of this transition process was to make sure that it was bigger than just one person. >> reporter: after the press conference, the president went to the mandela center in johannesburg and met privately with nelson mandela's children and grandchildren. his wife was not there for the meeting. the president and first lady instead called her at the hospital. in a written statement the president shared the thoughts he communicated to the entire family. i expressed my hope that madiba draws peace and comfort from the time is he spending with loved ones. the president has been well received by officials, but a few protesters gathered at the site of a town hall meeting. even at that for rum with
. >> madiba's moral courage, this country's historic transition to free and democratic nation has been a personal inspiration to me. >> reporter: he essentially called him the george washington of south africa, noting how like america's founding father, mandela knew to grow a democracy, he to walk away from power. >> nelson mandela, similarly, was able to recognize despite how revered he was, that part of this transition process was to make sure that it was bigger than just...